To BC or not BCE that is the Question

To BC or not BCE that is the Question

By: Donald Rose (Egyptology Man)

While studying books about Ancient Egypt or any history books for that matter, you may be annoyed to find that some of the modern books, particularly those of American source talk about BCE (Before the Common Era) and CE (Common Era). American sources of historical information taken from the internet, particularly Wikipedia are particularly guilty of this. All of the books I have sourced from the British Museum, I am pleased to discover use the classical terms of BC and AD. Even throughout the museum is no reference to BCE or CE. The terms BCE and CE in place of BC and AD, are not only starting to make my teeth itch, I have started to find offensive.

I have visited many ancient parts of the world but I have never heard the terms BCE or CE mentioned, except on a few TV programmes and once on a visit to the O2 Millennium Dome displaying the Tutankhamen Artefacts.

Whilst at the exhibition, someone reading a caption at the foot of a statue asked me “What does BCE mean?” I said, “It is a term used by the politically correct police who think it is offensive to non-Christians to see BC”. They looked at me shocked. What other answer was there, will we have to rewrite all the history books, and burn the rest? Are there going to be “Date Police”, who will force us to take a chisel to all the old monuments and buildings to scrub out AD and replace it by CE.

I have worked with texts which use the BCE notation and see no advantage in it at all. Some texts even alternate between BCE and BC notation on the same page. It is as if the authors were in too much of a rush to edit out BC properly before the Date Police broke the front door down.

Allegedly, the justification for using BCE and CE is the politically correct but indefensible idea that reference to Jesus is offensive to non-Christians, so we must walk softly around their tender, mostly secular humanist, feelings. I am not a religious fanatic, but I still go to church when there is a wedding or a funeral, I went a christening once, but don’t remember much as I was a baby at the time!

Who has instigated this, abbreviation? Is it non-Christian ethnic groups? Is it faceless Government bureaucrats in some quango trying to justify their existence, or is it those who would like to pretend we live in a post-Christian era?

Whatever the reasons for removing the religious significance from our calendar, it would be very upsetting to many if they only realised what is happening.

Most people can work out that AD dates belong to the last 2000 years or so, even though the actual birth date of Jesus may not be that accurate. Allowing for this and the fact that the calendar was changed in the 16th century, we all know what is meant by BC and AD. All dates of events before the 16th century are only markers; they are all wrong if you try to count the absolute days in a year before this time period.

In this BCE dating system there is nothing significant to distinguish the difference between the 1st century BCE and CE, except, for the birth of Jesus.

Within the time span there are no major changes in empires, technical advancements, innovations, migrations, invasions, plagues or famines, the only note worthy event is the birth of Jesus.

As a result of the Roman re-design of the calendar, today we use the Gregorian calendar; we do not ask the Chinese to change their calendar in case someone is offended by the year of the pig or whatever; we do not ask the Jews or Muslims to alter their calendars.

I don’t believe that using BC and AD offends people who adhere to faiths other than Christianity. There is a tendency to alter terminology to avoid any imagined slight that might possibly offend someone; in my experience they are rarely bothered.

Some religions are highly protective of their traditions and beliefs. They flaunt it for all to see and it can be very risky for anyone to show the slightest lack of respect for their beliefs. They do not concede anything by their forceful views and as a consequence are gaining ground all over the world.

As a consequence many passive religions are remaining static, or, like Christianity, are facing a slow and lingering death. Whatever our faith, we should all be proud of our beliefs and encourage people to be tolerant. We should not attempt to rewrite history or erase our heritage in an attempt to be politically correct.

Published in: on February 22, 2011 at 9:03 pm  Leave a Comment  

The Rebus Principle

Rebus Principle

By: Donald Rose (Egyptology Man)

The idea that symbols could be used to represent the sounds of a language rather than represent real objects, is known as the rebus principle and is one of the most significant ancient discoveries leading to the development of writing.  Not only did this principle apply to the development of the Ancient Egyptian written language, but it was also the precursor to the development of the alphabets used in modern languages as well.

A rebus is a message spelt out in pictures that represents sounds rather than the things they are pictures of. For example the picture of an eye, a bee, and a leaf can be put together to form the English rebus meaning “I be-lieve”, which has nothing to do with eyes, bees or leaves. Consider the following two examples of rebuses:-

The pictograms   and represent  “I-deer” and form the rebus “idea”.

The pictograms  , , and represent “eye-sea-ewe” and form the rebus “I see you”.

This principle is adopted in many parts of the Ancient Egyptian system of spelling with hieroglyphs.

The term “rebus” can refer to the use of one or more pictograms representing one or more phonograms. In the beginning, Ancient Egyptian writing relied heavily on pictographic signs representing concrete objects. Words which cannot be represented easily by means of a picture, such as proper names, ideas and function words, were difficult to write. The rebus principle provided the means to overcome this limitation. Fully developed hieroglyphs read in rebus fashion were in use at Abydos in Ancient Egypt as early as 3400 BC.

A famous Ancient Egyptian rebus statue of Ramses II consists of three hieroglyphic elements. A large falcon representing Horus the sun god – RA, who is standing behind a sitting child – MES, and the child is holding a sedge plant stalk in his left hand – SU. Remember we are not looking at these hieroglyphs from the perspective phonograms. These three items compose the rebus RA-MES-SU or as we prefer Ramesses.

Two main types of sound writing evolved from the development and extension of the rebus principle; syllabic and alphabetic writing. The English language is purely alphabetic, although from the example of the rebuses above, it can be seen how easy it is to construct a syllabic rebus from English words. Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs can demonstrate both types of writing.

It is even possible to compose a rebus that is both of an alphabetic and a syllabic nature, for example:-

H + = Hear

When you contemplate how language gradually develops, you may be right in thinking that there is no coincidence in the fact that the word “ear” is part of the word “hear”.

I hope that was interesting and feel free to ask questions.

Naming of Numbers – Short Scale and Traditional UK Long Scale


Naming of Numbers – Short Scale and Traditional Long Scale

By: Donald Rose (Egyptology Man)

I appreciate that many of you reading this will ask what have modern numeracy systems got to do with ancient egypt. Well on the surface very little and in this blog I am not even trying to establish a historic link which is achievable by the way. The reason it is that it is very important to understand the current numeric principles and convensions we use to understand the exact subject matter I will be posting over the coming weeks. The Egyptians were very skilled mathematicians and had an very advanced system they employed to understand the world around them. To really get to grips with this we need to understand exactly what WE mean as well.

The table below is a breakdown of convension we use which are often unknown or at least not well understood and I hope it stands alone as a useful guide and a good reference.

Name Short scale
USA and Modern UK
Long scale
Traditional UK, not used much now
one 100 100
ten 101 101
hundred 102 102
thousand 103 103
million 106 106
milliard 109
billion 109 1012
1015 thousand billion, billiard
trillion 1012 1018
1021 thousand trillion, trilliard
quadrillion 1015 1024
1027 thousand quadrillion
quintillion 1018 1030
1033 thousand quintillion
sextillion 1021 1036
septillion 1024 1042
octillion 1027 1048
nonillion 1030 1054
decillion 1033 1060
undecillion 1036 1066
duodecillion 1039 1072
tredecillion 1042 1078
quattuordecillion 1045 1084
quindecillion (quinquadecillion) 1048 1090
sexdecillion (sedecillion) 1051 1096
septendecillion 1054 10102
octodecillion 1057 10108
novemdecillion (novendecillion) 1060 10114
vigintillion 1063 10120
googol 10100 10100
centillion 10303 10600
googolplex 10googol






For most of the 19th and 20th centuries, the United Kingdom uniformly used the long scale, while the United States of America used the short scale, so that usage of the two systems was often referred to as “British” and “American” respectively. In 1974 the government of the UK abandoned the long scale, so that the UK now applies the short scale interpretation exclusively in mass media  and official usage.

Although some residual long-scale usage still continues, the terms “British” and “American” no longer represent accurate terminology. Trigintillion, often cited as a word in discussions of names of large numbers.

I hope this is of use to some people 🙂

Published in: on February 8, 2011 at 11:06 am  Leave a Comment  
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Dynastic Periods and Kingdoms of Ancient Egypt

Dynastic Periods

By: Donald Rose (Egyptology Man)

As this is my first post on the blog I thought it best to set the scene to which my interests and writing will flow around. Egypt. And not just any part the ancient history of the region. Egyptologists divide Ancient Egyptian civilization into four main Dynastic Periods, the Old, Middle, New, and the Late Kingdoms. These main Dynastic Periods are separated from each another by the First, Second, and Third Intermediate Periods. During these Intermediate periods, political divisions and weak rulers fragmented the central government and disrupted the administrative authority of the country.

Time Period Dynasties Powerful Rulers
Early Dynastic Period3100-2600 B.C 1-3 Menes, Djoser
Old Kingdom2600-2160 B.C 4-8 Cheops, Chephren, Mycerinus,Pepy I, II
First Intermediate Period2160-2040 B.C. 9-11
Middle Kingdom2040-1700 B.C. 11-13 Amenemmes I, II, III
Second Intermediate Period1700-1570 B.C. 14-17
New Kingdom1570-1070 B.C. 18-20 Amosis I,Amenophis I, II, III,

Tuthmosis I, II, III, IV,

Hatshepsut, Akhenaten,

Tutankhamun, Ramesses II & III

Third Intermediate Period1070- 600 B.C 21-25 Economic troubles and civil warsweaken Egypt. There are up to 4

Pharaohs ruling different parts of

Egypt at the same time

Late Kingdom600 – 332 B.C 26-30 Constant threats from Assyrians,Babylonians and Persians. During

the reign of Nectanebo II, Egypt

was conquered by Persians, this

marked the end of native

Egyptian rule.

Greco-Roman Period332 B.C. – 395 A.D 30 BC Egyptwas a Roman


Alexander the Great, Ptolemy,Cleopatra, Octavius

 If you are interested in the culture of ancient egypt please continue to visit. I will be posting articles on a regular basis and look forward to and feedback.

Djoser – Early Dynastic Period – 3100-2600 B.C

By: Donald Frazer (Egyptology Man)